Oral anglais LILLE

[Arwil]

hello ,je suis passée sur ce texte aussi et je voulais savoir, est ce que le jury nous juge en fonction des réponses que l'on donne parceque j'ai super bien parlé mais je n'ai pas su répondre a 2questions de culture générale, que veut dire la BBC et sur quels médias peut on trouver la BBC.

Merci de bien vouloir me répondre car je stresse un peu

[plindbrin]

moi je passe dans les dernieres je pense d'apres tout ce que je vois c'est mercredi 25 a 11h15 a roubaix.

[kouglof]

si vous retrouvez votre texte sur internet, pouvez vous nous donner le lien svp?

merci

[sandrine062]

Tu ne peux pas tt savoir; ils jugent surtout la communication, la façon de s'exprimer.

tu es passée avec quel jury?

[bridget59]

moi je passe dans les dernieres je pense d'apres tout ce que je vois c'est mercredi 25 a 11h15 a roubaix.

non non! moi je passe le 26juin!! jour de mon anniv!!

le matin espagnol et l'aprem english!!!!!

je ne pourai même pas fêter ça le midi au resto puisque les épreuves ne sont pas beaucoup espacées!!!

pi l'eoe en musique le jour de la fête de la musique!!!

....que des signes! mdr

vivement le 4juilletttttttttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sandrine062]

voilà j'ai trouvé; je vous mets ce que j'ai trouvé mais le texte ne faisait qu'une vingtaine de lignes mais des passages ont été supprimés.

June 18, 2005

The end of newspapers - the Rise of the BBC

The BBC is the part of the old media that has really got it. I attach a full article from the Economist below (subscription normally required)

Look at the quality of their Gardening Microsite where you can visit every garden at the Chelsea Flower Show.

My bet - the unreformed press will be dead in less than 55 years. Time to wake up. Time also for the CBC to make a drive into the new web - Let's Podcast and stream locally guys!

The BBC now has 525 sites. It spends £15m ($27m) a year on its news website and another £51m on others ranging from society and culture to science, nature and entertainment. But behind the websites are the vast newsgathering and programme-making resources, including over 5,000 journalists, funded by its annual £2.8 billion public subsidy.

For this year's Chelsea Flower Show, for instance, the BBC's gardening micro-site made it possible to zoom around each competing garden, watch an interview with the designer and click on “leaf hotspots” about individual plants. For this year's election, the news website offered a wealth of easy-to-use statistical detail on constituencies, voting patterns and polls. This week the BBC announced free downloads of several Beethoven symphonies performed by one of its five in-house orchestras. That particularly annoys newspapers, whose online sites sometimes offer free music downloads—but they have to pay the music industry for them.

It is the success of the BBC's news website that most troubles newspapers. Its audience has increased from 1.6m unique weekly users in 2000 to 7.8m in 2005; and its content has a breadth and depth that newspapers struggle to match.

Newspapers need to build up their online businesses because their offline businesses are flagging. Total newspaper readership has fallen by about 30% since 1990 and readers are getting older as young people increasingly get their news from other sources—principally the internet. In 1990, 38% of newspaper readers were under 35. By 2002, the figure had dropped to 31%.

Just this week, Dominic Lawson, the editor of the Sunday Telegraph, was sacked for failing to stem its decline. Some papers are having some success in building audiences online—the Guardian, which has by far the most successful newspaper site, gets nearly half as many weekly users as the BBC—but the problem is turning them into money.

The BBC's excellent websites may make it even harder for newspapers to survive

THE BBC, Britain's mammoth public-service broadcaster, has long been a cause for complaint among its competitors in television, radio and educational and magazine publishers. Newspapers, meanwhile, have been protected from it because they published in a different medium.

That's no longer the case. The internet has brought the BBC and newspapers in direct competition—and the BBC looks like coming off best.

The improbable success online of Britain's lumbering giant of a public-service broadcaster is largely down to John Birt, a former director-general who “got” the internet before any of the other big men of British media. He launched the corporation's online operations in 1998, saying that the BBC would be a trusted guide for people bewildered by the variety of online services.

The BBC now has 525 sites. It spends £15m ($27m) a year on its news website and another £51m on others ranging from society and culture to science, nature and entertainment. But behind the websites are the vast newsgathering and programme-making resources, including over 5,000 journalists, funded by its annual £2.8 billion public subsidy.

For this year's Chelsea Flower Show, for instance, the BBC's gardening micro-site made it possible to zoom around each competing garden, watch an interview with the designer and click on “leaf hotspots” about individual plants. For this year's election, the news website offered a wealth of easy-to-use statistical detail on constituencies, voting patterns and polls. This week the BBC announced free downloads of several Beethoven symphonies performed by one of its five in-house orchestras. That particularly annoys newspapers, whose online sites sometimes offer free music downloads—but they have to pay the music industry for them.

It is the success of the BBC's news website that most troubles newspapers. Its audience has increased from 1.6m unique weekly users in 2000 to 7.8m in 2005; and its content has a breadth and depth that newspapers struggle to match.

Newspapers need to build up their online businesses because their offline businesses are flagging. Total newspaper readership has fallen by about 30% since 1990 and readers are getting older as young people increasingly get their news from other sources—principally the internet. In 1990, 38% of newspaper readers were under 35. By 2002, the figure had dropped to 31%.

Just this week, Dominic Lawson, the editor of the Sunday Telegraph, was sacked for failing to stem its decline. Some papers are having some success in building audiences online—the Guardian, which has by far the most successful newspaper site, gets nearly half as many weekly users as the BBC—but the problem is turning them into money.

The difficulty for all newspaper websites is that most of their visitors tend to stay only briefly, viewing just a few pages. That makes it tricky to build a subscription model. Aside from specialised content, such as crosswords, or business news on the Financial Times's FT.com, newspapers offer their content free. As for internet advertising, most of it goes to the biggest sites, such as Google and Yahoo!

Still, some papers are covering their online costs. The Guardian's site is on the brink of making money. FT.com broke even at the end of 2002, after lots of investment, and the Daily Telegraph's site started paying its way from 2002 onwards. But if the papers' internet arms are to counterbalance the loss of revenue offline, they will have to start covering rather more than just their incremental costs.

Part of the papers' problem online is that they're papers: they don't understand moving pictures and graphics. The BBC's television background gives it a feel for what works well on the internet. And, crucially, it has far more journalists on tap than any newspaper. As the Sun website's night team of four people rushed to cover the result of Michael Jackson's child-abuse trial this week, its editor, Pete Picton, was dismayed to see how much the BBC was doing and with what resources. “They had a micro-site, journalists coming out of their ears, different angles and their own video footage,” he says. “We can't compete with their breadth of material.”

Competition from the BBC does not just reduce traffic on the newspapers' sites and the amount of cash they can earn from advertising. Taking people away from news also stops newspapers luring people into other areas of their sites such as personal finance, or classifieds, which have higher value for advertisers and generate more revenue, says Simon Waldman, head of digital publishing at the Guardian.

Richard Deverell, head of BBC News Interactive, argues that newspapers face such difficult challenges both online and off that the BBC is not a big factor. The BBC is making an effort to link its pages to other news organisations, he points out, both in Britain and abroad (depending on the subject) which in the past it did not.

That change comes as the result of a review last year of the BBC's website by Philip Graf, a former boss of Trinity Mirror, a newspaper company, who concluded that the BBC was somewhat out of control online. Mr Graf admitted that he could not prove that the BBC's online services damage its competitors. Nevertheless, he says, “there is no doubt that the BBC's well-funded presence is very strong competition for newspapers on the internet.”

Copyright © 2005 The Economist Newspaper and The Economist Group. All rights reserved.

Posted by Robert Paterson on June 18, 2005 at 07:47 AM

[nani5410]

Bonjour à tous!

Je reviens de mon oral d'anglais. Ca s'est globalement bien passé. Le texte était pourri, c'était un extrait de roman où le personnage principal racontait ce qu'il a fait chaque jour de ses vacances. En fait, c'était sous forme de journal intime. J'ai quand même réussi à parler du texte pdt pas mal de temps. Le jury était vraiment sympa, c'était le numéro 17. Ils nous mettent à l'aise et articulent bien donc on comprend bien, ne vous inquiétez pas.

Bonne chance aux prochains!!!!!

[kouglof]

ptite question: comment prononce-t-on "livre sterling" en anglais? si l'on parle d'argent dans notre texte...

[Aushkra]

Bonjour à tous!

Je reviens de mon oral d'anglais. Ca s'est globalement bien passé. Le texte était pourri, c'était un extrait de roman où le personnage principal racontait ce qu'il a fait chaque jour de ses vacances. En fait, c'était sous forme de journal intime. J'ai quand même réussi à parler du texte pdt pas mal de temps. Le jury était vraiment sympa, c'était le numéro 17. Ils nous mettent à l'aise et articulent bien donc on comprend bien, ne vous inquiétez pas.

Bonne chance aux prochains!!!!!

j ai eu le même jury et le même texte que toi!!

et je me suis bien ridiculisée mais ils étaient quand même sympa.

[lilie1978]

Moi j'ai eu le texte sur la bbc.

Le jury 13 parlait hyper vite et tout bas. Dur dur.

J'ai pas mal cherché mes mots et mis des s partout je crois.

Enfin, j'ai pas été inspirée du tout !

[caroisa]

allez lilie! on ne peut jamais savoir à l'avance!!

De toute façon, moi aussi j'appréhende cet oral!

Bises!

[STEPHHEN59]

Bon, ça y est voilà une épreuve de faite.

Le sujet était un article du washington post (c'est bien un journal US, hein????) qui portait sur la scolarisation des enfants à la maison. Jury n°6 dans un rôle parfait de jury. Ni trop à l'aise, ni coincé, souriant juste ce qu'il faut pour ne pas se sentir complétement dépassé ni avoir envie de trinquer entre amis. Bref un vrai jury très pro, et moi ça me va.

Quand vous arriverez, prévoyez 10 mn d'avance pour rermplir une fiche administrative. Puis on vous embarque pour la salle de prépa où on vous précise le passage que vous aurez à lire. Et puis voilà, vous savez pas ce qui a bien pu se passer mais on vient de déregler le temps!!!! 30 mn ça file...et il est déjà l'heure de passer.

J'ai trouvé le texte très riche, j'avais beaucoup d'idées mais un peu de mal à les exprimer. Mes tournures grammaticales n'étaient pas toujours très correct mais je n'ai pas laissé beaucoup de blanc dans les conversations. J'espère que je ne vais pas être pénalisée car j'ai pris bien plus de 5 mn pour présenter le texte et les reflexions auxquelles il me faisait songer.

Et puis avec un sujet comme ça, cela se termine en un "joyeux" mini oral pro:

Que répondrez-vous à des parents qui veulent déscolariser leur enfant?

Pourquoi dans une région où les écoles publics ont beaucoup de succès aux examens, il y a autant d'enfants avec enseignement à la maison?

Doit-on toujours prendre en compte les centres d'interets des enfants à l'école.

Est-il légal en France de faire soi-même l'éducation de ses enfants.

et une ou deux autres mais je ne me souviens plus de tout....